tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post2188878643298773186..comments2024-03-27T11:32:34.392-07:00Comments on NOT A HOAX! NOT A DREAM!: SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN ANNUAL #8Matthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-72274532080188594162016-01-04T08:41:54.232-08:002016-01-04T08:41:54.232-08:00Then you may want to look into the COMPLETE CLONE ...Then you may want to look into the COMPLETE CLONE SAGA and COMPLETE BEN REILLY SAGA trades, Snowkatt. Those contain <b>everything</b> from that era, in chronological reading order, from Ben's first meeting with Peter on the roof of the hospital up through his death in SPIDER-MAN #75 (including the bonus pages to that issue which were created specifically for the original REVELATIONS trade paperback). All the mini-series and one-shots are there too. It's an eleven book series comprising a complete archival collection of the entire Ben Reilly era.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-30737819551176229942016-01-01T15:07:11.434-08:002016-01-01T15:07:11.434-08:00Oh, stop before giving me ideas.
I'm one of th...Oh, stop before giving me ideas.<br />I'm one of those people who likes The Clone Saga. <br />And I'm actually trying to find all the individual issues including the minis annuals and what if's.<br /><br /> Snowkatthttp://focusedtotalitycomics.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-42198900188680289342015-12-03T12:20:58.587-08:002015-12-03T12:20:58.587-08:00Sometimes I wonder how much original Spider-Man Co...Sometimes I wonder how much original Spider-Man Conway actually read. It's possible he came on board during the John Romita era and never went back to read the Ditko stuff. Because you're right; he does get this stuff wrong often. I had forgotten about the Liz/MJ thing.<br /><br />I liked the SPECTACULAR issues with Carrion and the Hobgoblin working together. There's a lot to like in Conway's WEB/SPEC run from the eighties.<br /><br />Unfortunately, taking a better look at that link I posted to the upcoming trade release, it looks like they might only be collecting the SPECTACULAR half of the run, which will be absurd if true -- Conway wrote the issues like one biweekly title, with sub-plots moving in and out of both. But since pretty much all the Tombstone stuff occurred in SPEC, I could see why Marvel might approach it this way. I'd just really like his full run on both titles collected somehow.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-57473750746370803202015-12-03T12:16:35.449-08:002015-12-03T12:16:35.449-08:00Yeah, that Gwen clone stuck around for a long time...Yeah, that Gwen clone stuck around for a long time. She just sort of wanders off at the end of the original storyline in AMAZING 150, does the same here, and then does it again in the Clone Saga. It's like the writers didn't know what to do with her, but couldn't bring themselves to just outright kill her off.<br /><br />I have considered writing about the Clone Saga here. But the amazing "Life of Reilly" series from several years ago does it way better than I ever could, as the writer, Andrew Goletz, actually spoke with the creative talents of the time. So when I do get to it someday, it will likely be for my own entertainment. I could see myself doing little posts about bunches of issues, maybe -- but probably not issue-by-issue.<br /><br />I definitely will get to it, though. I've had Marvel's COMPLETE CLONE SAGA trades sitting in my bookcase for years now, just waiting...Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-23765839981730079472015-12-03T09:14:16.203-08:002015-12-03T09:14:16.203-08:00Conway has a long history of getting Peter's h...Conway has a long history of getting Peter's high school history wrong. He's far from the only writer to assume that MJ and/or Harry knew Peter then but he's also assumed that Liz Allen actually dated Peter then and she and MJ had a real rivalry, presumably to make her fit the complication of the ex returns in his original 1970s run.<br /><br />The whole revelation about the clones is one of the most pointless retcons (perhaps driven by developments in real world science?) as nothing was ever done with Gwen's clone until the Saga which undid this all. There was a follow-up in Spectacular #149 which created a new Carrion but that could have been easily done without all this mess.Tim Roll-Pickeringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12589024696145675963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-23623175111617815992015-12-03T06:19:53.552-08:002015-12-03T06:19:53.552-08:00It's funny, just the other day I went down a r...It's funny, just the other day I went down a rabbit hole over at CSBG and ended up reading a post laying out all this "Gwen's clone is a clone!/She's not a clone!/She's a clone!" business, and I thought, "ah, yeah, the SPECTACULAR annual - *that's* the one besides the finale Matt hasn't covered yet!" <br /><br />(Incidentally, I also learned from that post that after the re-retcon that this was a clone after all, Clone Gwen was much later killed off in a Spider-Island tie-in by the heretofore unseen insane original Gwen clone (the Kaine version of Gwen clones), and my mind boggled at the fact that there had been a Gwen Stacy clone just hanging out in the MU all this time). <br /><br />Also in that post, when he mentioned the Young Gods, Brian Cronin specifically said not to bother looking up anything about the Young Gods. :) <br /><br /><i>He's still working on that genetic bomb we learned about in the WEST COAST AVENGERS ANNUAL, too.</i><br /><br />Well, at least they remembered to mention that, in the penultimate chapter of the story, but it's still a little sad/telling that the second-to-last chapter of the story doesn't sound like it's concerned at all with anything that happens in the last chapter...<br /><br /><i>I really need to re-read that Clone Saga someday.</i><br /><br />Sounds like a future blog project. :) Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.com