tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post5414107179054612959..comments2024-03-27T11:32:34.392-07:00Comments on NOT A HOAX! NOT A DREAM!: FANTASTIC FOUR #243Matthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-11970016261340558522018-06-06T00:32:03.610-07:002018-06-06T00:32:03.610-07:00I remember reading this issue when it first came o...I remember reading this issue when it first came out and when Cap concurred with Reed it struck me as being completely in character. In Captain America #254, Cap showed great anguish in ending the life of Baron Blood, a vampire! So I would say that Cap doesn’t believe in capital punishment. Perhaps under other writers this has not been the case but I can’t think of any examples. Whether Cap’s opinion is seen as wrong or idiotic would also depend upon the the reader’s feelings regarding capital punishment.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07930100200647482518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-48347397655860207002016-02-26T15:12:59.504-08:002016-02-26T15:12:59.504-08:00Good point -- if Cap had just remained mum on the ...Good point -- if Cap had just remained mum on the matter, it wouldn't bother me at all!Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-63885907448893446202016-02-25T12:09:24.599-08:002016-02-25T12:09:24.599-08:00I too am pretty rabidly "superheroes don'...I too am pretty rabidly "superheroes don't kill!" but Cap does indeed come off poorly here. The easy sidestep is to simply not have him weigh in on the matter either way until after Reed explains his reasoning, then have him support Reed. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-11243558572292758452016-02-16T15:04:38.174-08:002016-02-16T15:04:38.174-08:00Nope. Dr. Strange and Ghost Rider were never membe...Nope. Dr. Strange and Ghost Rider were never members of the Defenders or Champions at the same time.<br />Dr. Strange was never a Champion.<br />Ghost Rider was never an official member of the Defenders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-26731407935320227512016-02-16T13:35:02.175-08:002016-02-16T13:35:02.175-08:00It was fun to go read #211 (I think) afterwards; B...It was fun to go read #211 (I think) afterwards; Big G is quite magnanimous in pumping up Terrax there with all the cosmic powers. And then has to slap him around pretty much immediately when he gets uppity. I chuckle at the parallel to The Three Musketeers (the novel), where the others tell d'Artagnan to do just that when his personal manservant gets a bit snide in way of wanting to get some food and pay.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-48556383466172718552016-02-16T13:25:03.262-08:002016-02-16T13:25:03.262-08:00Nope, never saw no cartoons, but I know penance st...Nope, never saw no cartoons, but I know penance stare at work when I see it. And I also was a teensiest bit thinking Ghost Rider being one of the members in the short-lived A. Adams-drawn iteration, and Doc Strange playing a role in the Spirits of Vengeance alongside GR. I'm afraid to check up if they were in Champions/Defenders too together (well, Johnny Blaze at least).<br /><br />I had a vague memory of having heard that GR did it to Galactus sometime but absolutely no idea where. (could have read about it at Supermegamonkey; I noticed after commenting that I may have been inadvertently channeling the points made at there)Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-4242015384052479352016-02-16T12:51:39.533-08:002016-02-16T12:51:39.533-08:00Galactus kind of brought Terrax on himself when he...Galactus kind of brought Terrax on himself when he chose to recruit a merciless warlord as a herald!Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-83471888482886978482016-02-16T12:50:33.947-08:002016-02-16T12:50:33.947-08:00Interesting, I'm unaware of Cap's role in ...Interesting, I'm unaware of Cap's role in the new SECRET WARS. Maybe I'll look into it.<br /><br />In general, I have no problem with Captain America killing enemy combatants during wartime or under extreme circumstances -- and, in my own opinion, this would qualify as an extreme circumstance. Plus, it's not like they'd be <b>actively</b> killing Galactus -- they'd just stand by and let him die naturally.<br /><br />Though I should reiterate, I understand why Reed believes he must be saved. He's a force of nature and the universe needs him. I just believe Cap's reasoning for helping is wrong.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-82760357659192887452016-02-16T12:47:54.628-08:002016-02-16T12:47:54.628-08:00Yeah, Cap chipping away at Galactus's foot is ...Yeah, Cap chipping away at Galactus's foot is pretty great.<br /><br />So I have to ask, Teemu -- was the Ghost Rider mention just random, or were you specifically referencing the episode of the nineties' FANTASTIC FOUR cartoon, in which Ghost Rider filled Doctor Strange's spot in their adaptation of this story? I'm inclined to think the latter, but you never know!Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-66314514658855623652016-02-15T21:58:03.391-08:002016-02-15T21:58:03.391-08:00I say thee it is clobberin' time when you use ...I say thee it <b>is</b> clobberin' time when you use Mr. Fantastic as slingshot and hurl the Thing into Galactus' face, whether or not anyone says it aloud. Ben's doubtlessly thinking of it whilst flying but it's lost under all the sound effects.<br /><br />The way I see it, Galactus is just really big and has appetite to go with it. Reed himself was earlier there commenting he's never seen Galactus as "evil"; he's not eating planets out of spite but for his sustenance. Very natural order, only in really big scale.<br /><br />Gotta love Terrax. He's been around, what, five issues, and already Galactus feels no one has given him grief like Terrax has.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-40841223340352885672016-02-15T11:08:56.965-08:002016-02-15T11:08:56.965-08:00Well, considering the side Captain America took in...Well, considering the side Captain America took in the lead up to the recent Secret Wars mini-series, I'd say that Cap's stance in this issue seems pretty accurate.<br />That Captain America refuses to purposely take any life, no matter the circumstances.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-53729614728900316052016-02-15T10:14:45.962-08:002016-02-15T10:14:45.962-08:00when Doctor Strange arrives, he distracts Galactus...<i>when Doctor Strange arrives, he distracts Galactus by forcing him to confront the souls of every life he's ever taken, which leads to him screaming and shutting down his own mind rather than comprehend how many people he's killed.</i><br /><br />Yes but does he have an <i>ultra-cool chain and fiery motorcycle</i>?<br /><br /><br /><i>So we wind up with a Captain America who comes across as completely out of touch with the situation</i><br /><br />Everything's forgiven on account of his actions on the cover. So awesome! One of those perfect comicbook moments!Teemunoreply@blogger.com