tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post7764205765103299865..comments2024-03-27T11:32:34.392-07:00Comments on NOT A HOAX! NOT A DREAM!: FANTASTIC FOUR #262Matthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-79371059066601010752018-06-02T11:42:48.470-07:002018-06-02T11:42:48.470-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06906612579731911613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-56843394707330756462016-06-27T10:28:37.669-07:002016-06-27T10:28:37.669-07:00(Hmm, is there such a thing as a formal coup? &quo...(Hmm, is there such a thing as a formal coup? "Your highness, please be ready. We will storm the throne room promptly at one o'clock next Tuesday. Your attendance will be appreciated."Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-83836219488625604972016-06-27T10:27:30.904-07:002016-06-27T10:27:30.904-07:00Hey, at least we all revised our collective image ...Hey, at least we all revised our collective image of Galactus to remove the giant "G" from his chest.<br /><br />You're probably right about the Deathbird/Lilandra timing thing. I've always just figured she took control around issue 160 while the X-Men and Lilandra were away in Brood space, but the formal coup may have been later than that.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-71768081993436956632016-06-23T07:52:04.968-07:002016-06-23T07:52:04.968-07:00Fun fact: movie director Tim Story sees him as a g...<i>Fun fact: movie director Tim Story sees him as a giant cloud.</i><br /><br />Ha! I've always liked that little detail - explains explain away the Earth-centrism of this force of galactic nature looking like a big human. I'm still not quite sure why humans view him as a guy in a purple loin cloth and a goofy helmet (instead of, I dunno, just a guy in a suit or a robe or something), but I suppose he appeared late enough after the emergence of superheroes in the MU that humanity collectively pictured him as a supervillain. <br /><br /><i> However at this point in continuity, Lilandra was deposed as the Shi’ar empress by her treacherous sister, Deathbird, and Gladiator was sworn to serve Deathbird instead.</i><br /><br />I could be wrong about this, but I think Deathbird didn't technically sieze Lilandra's throne until UNCANNY #174 (or, at least, that's when Lilandra learns about it). Granted, Lilandra's been on the run and not empress for awhile, but Deathbird wasn't technically Empress herself yet, and thus Gladiator wasn't sworn to her. So maybe there was some leeway that allowed him to backup Lilandra here (nevertheless, it remains a hinky bit of continuity). Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-61082134514940317482016-05-02T09:42:13.895-07:002016-05-02T09:42:13.895-07:00There's definitely some ire tossed Lilandra...There's definitely some ire tossed Lilandra's way this issue, with Byrne himself even chiming in as seen in one of my screenshots above. It's doubly funny when you consider that in-Universe, assuming Marvel publishes an X-MEN comic as they do in the real world, Byrne has already drawn Lilandra a few times (hence his familiarity with her here).<br /><br />In general I love the FF's reactions to Byrne here. The Torch addressing him as "Byrne" rather than "Mr. Byrne" or "John", and the Thing commenting on how he usually gets the details wrong.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-7003735543241744172016-05-02T09:38:20.212-07:002016-05-02T09:38:20.212-07:00Thanks! I think there are a couple pages from the...Thanks! I think there are a couple pages from the GALACTUS: THE ORIGIN comic in the Byrne Omnibus, unless I'm misrembering.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-48601474401646138692016-04-27T10:29:18.204-07:002016-04-27T10:29:18.204-07:00Oh I don't know. It certainly felt eventous wh...Oh I don't know. It certainly felt eventous when I read it sometime in '89 or so. The cosmic grandeur of the story caught the new reader and this being my first encounter with Odin made it but more momentous. And at the same time I totally failed to question John Byrne's presence. I love when comics manage just the right amount to not take themselves too seriously.<br /><br />Everyone is obviously free to have an opinion about the (anti-)climax of the story being a gallery of perplexed faces and a wall of text, but then again I was slammed with a similar thing in UNCANNY #203 also with Rachel and the Beyonder and I didn't really get that one either and it was still kind of awesome.<br /><br />One must of course appreciate that just like in the trial of Jean Grey also here Lilandra is there appointing herself as the prosecutor. And how can you not love the Gladiator who feels he actually has to state out that he probably will not be able to take Galactus.<br /><br />The bit with Xxan Xxar not destroying Galactus is full of pathos, in the good way.<br /><br />The cover of UNCANNY #200 probably isn't an intentional homage to this one, but damn if that isn't a fine setup. I wonder if there are any earlier examples.<br /><br /><i>Ben and his teammates are busy acting as a peanut gallery this issue.</i><br /><br />You did notice Charlie Brown there on the cover so? :)<br /><br />Sue: <i>these days she's calling herself "<b>Majestrix Shi'ar</b>" -- whatever <b>that</b> means</i><br /><br />Oh you, John Byrne. :)<br /><br />It almost reads like the "too full of her own importance, but to actually threaten the Fantastic Four" bit really wasn't about Lilandra at all, but about someone completely else. So, maybe not quite best friends... ;)<br /><br />Our translator had John Byrne call Lilandra a "beaky hen", which is absolutely offensively hilarious what with the Shi'ar being partially avians, and Byrne surely manages to somehow emphasize the henness in her looks especially in the panel where her and Reed stare at each other superimposedly. He nearly ruined the character here for me forever.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7105844689832543332.post-54916050513048896792016-04-27T09:48:43.977-07:002016-04-27T09:48:43.977-07:00The references to Thor being told Galactus' or...The references to Thor being told Galactus' origin were from Thor #162, 168, and 169.<br />That story was later updated in a special Galactus: The Origin one-shot, which I believe Byrne worked on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com